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Beating Up on the Little (or Big) Guys

The question of tall players hitting short players and whether these hits should be called as head shots came up in the SB Nation discussion list.  So I started wondering if there are any consistent trends around size differentials in hits.  First, there's a league-wide bias: taller players hit shorter players, though the average difference is small - just 1/4-inch.  Here's the distribution of heights by hitters and guys who got hit:

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This leads to a very slight change in the distribution of height differential in hits:

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So are there any players who frequently hit players much smaller than themselves?  No big surprises here - if you're really tall, there aren't many other players your size who you can hit!

 

Player Avg Diff Height
Zdeno Chara 8.1 81
Derek Boogaard 6.3 80
Boris Valabik 6.2 79
Hal Gill 6.1 79
Jeff Schultz 5.4 78
Chris Pronger 5.3 78
Alexei Semenov 5.1 78
Andy Sutton 4.9 78
Brian Boyle 4.8 78
Marek Malik 4.7 78
Nik Antropov 4.6 78
Derian Hatcher 4.6 77

 

None of these players figure on the list of players who hit the tallest opponents on average.  Again, this isn't surprising: defensemen are taller than forwards; but defensemen don't typically get a chance to hit other defensemen, so forwards will tend to hit taller players on average.

 

Player Avg Height Height
Jeremy Reich 74.06 73
Anton Babchuk 74.00 77
T.J. Hensick 73.94 70
Jeff Taffe 73.89 75
Fabian Brunnstrom 73.88 73
Chris Stewart 73.86 74
Daniel Alfredsson 73.86 71
Erik Cole 73.86 74
Marc-Antoine Pouliot 73.85 73
Steve Downie 73.84 71

 

Here's the other end of the list.  It's significant to note how small the spread is: it's rare for a player to hit an average opponent under 6-feet tall or over 6'2".

 

Player Avg Height Height
Michael Nylander 72.00 73
Andy Greene 72.12 71
Martin Havlat 72.25 73
Andrew Hutchinson 72.27 74
Alexei Zhitnik 72.29 71
Tobias Enstrom 72.35 70
Brian Lee 72.36 74
Adam Pardy 72.39 76
Niklas Hjalmarsson 72.39 75
Mike Lundin 72.39 74

 

Just for completeness, here's the list of players who get hit by the tallest average opponent:

 

Player Avg Height Height
Marian Hossa 74.21 73
Max Pacioretty 74.11 74
Patrick Eaves 74.10 72
Colin Stuart 74.09 74
Erik Christensen 74.09 73
Brendan Shanahan 74.08 75
Ilya Kovalchuk 74.07 73
Peter Schaefer 74.06 73
Erik Cole 74.06 74
Rodney Pelley 74.05 72

 

And the shortest average opponent:

 

Player Avg Height Height
Matt Jones 72.50 72
Jack Hillen 72.55 71
Josef Melichar 72.57 74
Mike Lundin 72.58 74
Thomas Pock 72.62 73
Nolan Pratt 72.63 75
Henrik Tallinder 72.65 76
Zach Bogosian 72.68 74
Sean Hill 72.71 72
Craig Rivet 72.72 74

 

I'll come back to this in the future and look at weight imbalances in hitting...

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I assume the height distribution for the league is the same as the hit distribution (scaled appropriately).

by Mogen_david on Dec 14, 2009 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

can you elaborate? not sure i know what you’re asking.

by Hawerchuk on Dec 14, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he’s asking if the distribution of heights in the league matches the distribution of heights that hit/get hit. If he’s not, I’m now curious about it.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 16, 2009 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think that’s his question. The heights of the players who hit is shifted to the right slightly; the heights of the players who get hit is shifted left.

by Hawerchuk on Dec 16, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting stuff, Gabe. As one of the seemingly small minority who actually puts some stock in the RTSS stats, I’ve long wondered if there is any place that tracks the “hittee”. I know the info is embedded in the play-by-play, did you just strip it out of there?

A few questions arise, of which you’ve tackled relatvie size here. Which players take the most hits? Do they tend to be the same guys who dish out the most, that are likely to be involved in both ends of the physical battle? Is there any correlation between, say, times hit and giveaways? (I’m thinking the guys who carry the puck the most are likely to rank highly in both areas, not so much that a causes b)

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 15, 2009 2:49 AM EST reply actions  

I’ve got this piece in the hopper for you already. Just to give away the secret: defensemen get hit the most, and they tend to not be the ones who dish out the most hits. The give/take issue is an interesting one, I’ll look into it further.

by Hawerchuk on Dec 15, 2009 3:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Sweet. I look forward to it.

Really enjoying your blog. Keep it coming.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 15, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d like to just take the time to ditto everything Bruce said. Keep up the good work, this stuff is fascinating.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 16, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

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